>There are no plants apart from short cattle grass she comes in contact with.
Any suggestions are welcome.
It may be an inhalant allergy as opposed to a contact allergy?
Certainly washing her with an oatmeal shampoo wouldn’t do any harm. It’s possible there is something in the Malaseb that she reacts to, although you say Esta had already started scratching, then, you used the Malaseb?
What are her paws like, red and irritated?
I have found this Summer to be the worst in years for my dog’s skin problems. Even the one without skin issues, had a month of continuous hot spots!
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My GSD Esta started to get very itchy in July 2008 and I saw several vets regarding it. After trying a few things like creams which didn’t work and antihistamines which partly worked I did an elimination diet. I found that Beef was the culprit. She also had a yeast infection due to her immune system being constantly under stress (due to being fed beef) and I treated that with the Malaseb Shampoo, washing her twice a week for a couple of month. Once we were on top of that and making sure she wouldn’t get any beef products, her hair on her breastbone and loins grew back, the black skin disappeared, she stopped scratching and biting her feet and was happy. That whole process trying to figure out what was going on took until August 09. She was fine in September. Now she suddenly started scratching in February and the breastbone hair started to disappear, it looked so familiar, so I washed her with Malaseb, then a week later the scratching was worse, so I washed her again a couple of time
Has anyone had a dog with a reaction to Malaseb?
I have given her antihistamine since they helped her last year in summer – have to find something to stop her scratching.
I have only started that this morning, so far no difference. Maybe I should wash her again with an oatmeal shampoo to get the malaseb of her.
Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree..
There are no plants apart from short cattle grass she comes in contact with.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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Yes she was scratching before I used the Malaseb, that’s why I used it but it seems that it made it worse.
Her paws look ok but she eats away at them as well as her legs. Her groin is full of little red spots this morning. Given her more antihistamine and will wash her with the oatmeal when I come back from work.
Just don’t really understand why this has started up again. Might put her back on a vet diet to see whether there is a new allergy developing. Maybe it’s lamb now??
Of course it could be that she suffers from all sorts of allergies including inhalant allergies starting up in summer?
>There are no plants apart from short cattle grass she comes in contact with.
Any suggestions are welcome.
It may be an inhalant allergy as opposed to a contact allergy?
Certainly washing her with an oatmeal shampoo wouldn’t do any harm. It’s possible there is something in the Malaseb that she reacts to, although you say Esta had already started scratching, then, you used the Malaseb?
What are her paws like, red and irritated?
I have found this Summer to be the worst in years for my dog’s skin problems. Even the one without skin issues, had a month of continuous hot spots!
—– Original Message —–
My GSD Esta started to get very itchy in July 2008 and I saw several vets regarding it. After trying a few things like creams which didn’t work and antihistamines which partly worked I did an elimination diet. I found that Beef was the culprit. She also had a yeast infection due to her immune system being constantly under stress (due to being fed beef) and I treated that with the Malaseb Shampoo, washing her twice a week for a couple of month. Once we were on top of that and making sure she wouldn’t get any beef products, her hair on her breastbone and loins grew back, the black skin disappeared, she stopped scratching and biting her feet and was happy. That whole process trying to figure out what was going on took until August 09. She was fine in September. Now she suddenly started scratching in February and the breastbone hair started to disappear, it looked so familiar, so I washed her with Malaseb, then a week later the scratching was worse, so I washed her again a couple of time
Has anyone had a dog with a reaction to Malaseb?
I have given her antihistamine since they helped her last year in summer – have to find something to stop her scratching.
I have only started that this morning, so far no difference. Maybe I should wash her again with an oatmeal shampoo to get the malaseb of her.
Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree..
There are no plants apart from short cattle grass she comes in contact with.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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Hi
Has she been tested for sebacious adenitis? This is a disease that causes hair loss which is caused by the destruction of the sebacious (oil making glands) in the skin by the immune system. It is heritable and is quite common but not widely recognised by vets in NZ. It took me two years and many vet visits to get a diagnosis for my Std Poodle. The diagnosis is by a skin punch biopsy.
The itching is caused by the skin infection, and if you have been using Malesab sounds like the vet thinks you have infection. The infection has to have strong antibiotics over a long time ( maybe 2 months) to clear it. The way SA is treated is by using oil soaks and regular baths, I use Episoothe by Virbac as the shampoo.
There is quite a lot of good info on the www. It is life long but not life threatening.
The main thing is to get a diagnosis, probably your own vet will not hav heard of it, but a vet skin specialist will get to the bottom of what is wrong. I must say I do get sick of vets going on about allergies, I think they must have all been to the same lecture.
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>Yes she was scratching before I used the Malaseb, that’s why I used it but it seems that it made it worse.
The week inbetween using the malaseb may have been enough time for her skin to worsen, she may need a bath every 2nd day when at her worst.
>Her paws look ok but she eats away at them as well as her legs. Her groin is full of little red spots this morning.
My GSD Ruby, is a nibbler on her legs, but she also gets red and irritated inbetween her toes and in around her pads. I find that by just shampooing her chest, tummy, groin, legs and feet can be enough without having to do the whole body.
If those little red spots have a white pus in them, beware that they may be the start of a secondary skin infection once they pop and weep.
>Just don’t really understand why this has started up again.
I know what you mean, skin problems are sooooo frustrating, sometimes there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to why it’s flared up again
>Might put her back on a vet diet to see whether there is a new allergy developing. Maybe it’s lamb now??
Did you have success with this diet last time she was on it? If so, I would seriously consider keeping her on it, if it helps her, go with it
There are times when we can’t fight the “kibble” and must do what works best to give our dogs a quality of an itch-free life.
>Of course it could be that she suffers from all sorts of allergies including inhalant allergies starting up in summer?
Exactly, she is proably reactive to both contact and inhalant. Ruby definately is. We have lots of pine trees that spreads their yellow pollen everywhere and a willow tree that also seems to be an irritant.
Pollens can go for miles on the wind ……… grrrrrr!!
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Hi You do not say where you live. If you are in the Waikato or even uckland then it might be the spawn count when the humidity is high
I know that my pointer was in Hamilton I used to have to give her a zinc tablet and treat the skin with zinc and casteroil but now I am
in the South Island I have been able to stop. Just a thought. Pat Bowen—– Original Message —–
Hi
Has she been tested for sebacious adenitis? This is a disease that causes hair loss which is caused by the destruction of the sebacious (oil making glands) in the skin by the immune system. It is heritable and is quite common but not widely recognised by vets in NZ. It took me two years and many vet visits to get a diagnosis for my Std Poodle. The diagnosis is by a skin punch biopsy.
The itching is caused by the skin infection, and if you have been using Malesab sounds like the vet thinks you have infection. The infection has to have strong antibiotics over a long time ( maybe 2 months) to clear it. The way SA is treated is by using oil soaks and regular baths, I use Episoothe by Virbac as the shampoo.
There is quite a lot of good info on the www. It is life long but not life threatening.
The main thing is to get a diagnosis, probably your own vet will not hav heard of it, but a vet skin specialist will get to the bottom of what is wrong. I must say I do get sick of vets going on about allergies, I think they must have all been to the same lecture.
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> Her breathing is much more labored like a dog on a very hot day – well not
> very hot here at the moment.
Heike, she sounds pretty unhappy. I would take her in for a consult – she is
obviously not improving with Malaseb. I see you used it twice weekly last
time, but not sure if you are using it more often at the moment – if so she
could be reacting to it.
http://hubpages.com/hub/Masaleb-Shampoo
Or just reacting to too much water/wetness, which can encourage fungals to
grow, even with antifungal/antibacterial treatments.
It has been a bad yr for allergy etc, and maybe this time she needs a
different approach.
Skin swabs might help to determine what organisms are causing the problem.
Elimination diet, change of protein and maybe feed it with plain cooked rice
?
> I have given her antihistamine since they helped her last year in summer -
They could have stopped working – can you try a different one? are they vet
prescribed or ? I would touch base with your vet anyway.
Hope you are not vaccinating, which may add to the things she has to deal
with.